WallFlower Women's Curvy Jean, 20 Plus

Looking for a nice pair of jeans, I came across Wallflower . First I ordered Basil. I liked the thin, stretchy material which makes them comfortable to wear and they fit nicely in the legs. But, in difference to any other jeans , the waist band isn’t reinforced , and after one day , they started slipping off my waist , making the crotch sag which is a really bad look. And moreover, the workmanship was shoddy , there was one inch in one outer leg seam, where the outer stitching of the double seam was simply left open , they looked broken from the beginning and I almost sent them back for that . I wear a US size 14, sometimes 12 , in other jeans brands, and figured, size 17 should be the same, from the size chart . ( it was, for the first day only ) Still, the material is comfortable, so I wear them often , but have to keep pulling them up. It’s a weird cut, with the soft waistband , which makes them look as if they have elastic at the top , nipping into my sides, and then they start to slip down. Anyway , I ordered a second pair soon after, Blackberry, in the same size 17 . What a disappointment ! These were a size too big from the beginning , too large in the waist , wrinkly in the legs . I put them into hot water today , hoping they will shrink , but it doesn’t look like they did ( still drying ), but the color leaked into the water . May have to boil them next , or take them to an expensive taylor shop for alteration. Bummer ! Amazon recommended I buy size 13 “ according to thousands of customers “ , which sounds totally off, why do they say that when I keep ordering US14? Should I try size 15 next ? Try to squeeze in there and wait for them to stretch as they all seem to do within a day or two ? If they weren’t so comfortable, I would simply go for a better more reliable brand ( which may be cheaper , too ) . Judging from the other reviews here, sizes seem to be unpredictable and random with Wallflower , what if the size 15 happens to be one of those with a “ two inches smaller waist than other size 15 “ ? For this kind of unstable quality , I think, the price is set too high , why demand more than what more famous brands cost ?