Amazon Fire HD 8" (2016) Tablet
$44.99
Capacity: 32GB
Screen Size: 8"
Condition: Refurbished; Open Box
Top positive review
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Great bang for your buck and gets the job done!
By C. McKinney on Reviewed in the United States on December 10, 2016
For me, the Fire HD 8 tablet with 32GB RAM is a great balance of convenience, power, and price.Already an owner of a Fire HD 6 and a Fire 7, the new 2016 Fire HD 8 is my favorite. It's running smoothly and handling all the applications I need. This past week I needed to commute by train downtown one hour each way, and I enjoyed watching Amazon Prime and Netflix videos offline that I'd downloaded to the SD card. A new feature I've been enjoying is Alexa, especially listening to my flash briefing as I brush my teeth each day. I also use it for web browsing, listening to music, playing Hearthstone and other games, and reading my Time magazine. Other apps I've installed include Facebook, Skype, Reddit is Fun, Olive Tree's Bible Study, ES File Explorer, YNAB, Any.DO, apps for 4 banks or credit cards, and Covenant Eyes.A couple of times I used this tablet to read a book I was reading on my Kindle device. Amazon knew which page I was on and I did not have to search to find my place. That's a nice feature, but to be honest I greatly prefer reading books on a Kindle; there is less glare, and it is much easier to read, especially in sunlight. Also, I have the Amazon Photo app installed on my Samsung smart phone; it was a pleasant surprise to see all my photos and videos from that phone appearing on my Fire tablet without any action from me other than signing into my Amazon account. These are a couple of ways Amazon has optimized this tablet for Prime members.Amazon has done a great job at making compromises to a tablet’s specifications to keep the cost down while still producing a tablet that is good enough for most purposes. Premium tablets such as Apple’s iPad Mini 4 or Samsung’s Galaxy Tab S2 outperform the Fire HD 8, no question; but while they cost four times as much as the Fire, their performance is not at all four times better. On the other hand, the Fire out-performs many tablets that cost much more. My own personal experience is that what the Fire 8 is capable of makes it a real bargain at the price. It runs the apps I need it to run, plays the games I want to play, and is sufficient for productivity in terms of documents, spreadsheets, presentations, e-mail, and video-conferencing. (The included Docs app is capable enough I'm considering getting a cover with keyboard for taking notes at meetings.) Note that my Fire HD 6 doesn't really run Hearthstone well at all, for example, and it runs a bit too slow for me on the Fire 7; the performance improvement on this Fire HD 8 is noticeable.Where this tablet risked losing a star is in the efforts made by Amazon to make it a platform for consuming Amazon content while steering the user away from Google. The Fire OS (based on Google’s Android OS) has no Google Play store, so only apps available on Amazon’s own store are available for download. Popular Google apps—including Gmail, Chrome, Youtube, Drive, and the like—are not offered from Amazon’s store, although they all work well enough through the Silk browser (which does allow you to set Google as your default search engine).I get why Amazon steers users away from Google in such a heavy-handed manner: the Fire tablet is a loss-leader, sold at cost to stimulate the sale of Kindle books, Amazon Prime, and videos. But I really don’t like it when companies intentionally gimp their technology products like this. Will the Fire’s attractive price outweigh your desire for the Google Play store, services, and apps? That should be your prime question when considering the Fire HD 8, in my opinion. For me, it was worth it, and that's saying a lot.It is possible to install Google’s Play store, services, and apps. Many people do. My experiences with a previous device were not entirely positive--sometimes updates don't apply as one expects, undocumented app interactions get you, or things just don't work as expected. As an Amazon Prime member wanting a Fire tablet primarily for consuming media I made the decision for myself not to modify the Fire OS. I take this tablet on its' own terms, and I like it.I do recommend you become comfortable with one or more ways to side-load apps onto your Fire tablet. Although many of the apps I want are actually available from Amazon’s app store, I want too many apps on my tablet that are not available, such as apps for depositing checks to my bank accounts, YNAB, Dropbox, and the VPN I pay a fee to use on all my devices. Sometimes an app that is available in Amazon’s app store doesn’t seem to work, while the same app from Google’s Play store does. I load these apps by side-loading them. Let me add that the Fire's Email app capably handles several of my Gmail accounts and it is not difficult to switch between them, but it has a different "look and feel" from the native Gmail app I use on my other devices. Likewise, I can access Gmail and Google Drive fine via the Silk browser.To side-load an app, the main thing that’s needed is the app’s apk file. These are often available for download online, but because I’m so suspicious of malware I tend to use the apk’s I have from the apps on my Android mobile phone that originated from Google's Play store. I use ES File Explorer (a file manager available from both Amazon’s app store and Google’s play store) to “back up” the apps in question on my phone, which provides me with a usable apk; then I transfer that to my Fire tablet via e-mail (if it’s small enough), Google Drive (remember you can access it via the Fire’s web browser), or Dropbox (once you’ve got it installed), or one can save the file to an SD card on the phone and then insert the card into the Fire tablet and run it from there. (It's not enough to have the APK on the tablet--it must be "run" to install the app.)I’ve just spent the last couple of paragraphs describing ways to live with Amazon’s decision to keep us away from the Google Play store, and considered dropping a star for that reason. But Amazon fully discloses its' "Fire OS" rather than claiming to be plain Android, and did I mention the price? (I got my 32GB Fire HD 8 for $89 on Black Friday.) Another minor annoyance that did not manage to knock off a star was the screen glare (makes it difficult to watch videos while on a train--I had to choose my seat carefully). Other compromises you should know about are the screen resolution (720p rather than today's higher-resolution choices), cameras (still good enough for Skype or depositing checks), and processor speed.My bottom line: This tablet is huge in terms of bang for your buck. On top of that, the compromises it does make don't prevent me from doing what I need to do. I'm so glad to have such a powerful and affordable tablet solution for my needs!
Top critical review
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Buyer beware
By Ixanian C. Nichols on Reviewed in the United States on March 22, 2017
This is a nice device with a reasonably good physical design. I have a few nits to pick with the UI design, but I won't bore you with those. Overall it seems to be a really good value for the money. However, after just a week of ownership, I already have some warnings for other shoppers:1) Your Fire HD 8 has complete access to your Amazon account by default.I was dismayed to discover that the "Shop Amazon" icon on the device had full access to my Amazon cart. I opened it, and didn't have to enter an account name or even a password, I was just instantly looking my Amazon cart, including all 1000 "save for later" items. I tried a test checkout and was never asked for any kind of authentication at all. It just worked.Let me be clear: I didn't do ANYTHING to enable any of this, the device arrived this way. This is an alarming breach of my trust. Mailboxes everywhere are robbed all the time, and my own mailboxes have been robbed multiple times in the last few months, and recently destroyed by the thieves, TWICE IN ONE WEEK!. If my GF hadn't been home to intercept the package, a thief may have stumbled into unfettered access to the largest shopping site in the world through my account and my credit cards for weeks. I had NO IDEA Amazon would do something this stupid, so it would never have occurred to me to check all my credit card statements and Amazon account immediately after discovering such a theft.Even leaving aside that kind of overt crime, I decline by default to enable purchasing or financial access of any kind on any small electronic device, because it's so easy to hack them, swipe them, or even just use them while I'm not looking. I'm not going to keep a 1-pound, 8"x6" solid block like the Fire HD 8 on my person at all times like my phone, so it will often be sitting somewhere out of my view where it could be swiped or "borrowed". Caveat emptor ignarus.I looked around, but I could find no way to remove the app or even restrict the access (e.g. with password authentication). I discovered it is possible (and thankfully pretty easy) to block the Shop Amazon app by enabling and configuring Parental Controls, but I'm annoyed that:a) Amazon literally just gave away unfettered access to my Amazon account to any complete stranger without my knowledge or permission;b) It's up to *me* to figure out how to block this access, which takes some time to figure out; andc) the method for blocking access is so counter-intuitive - I'm not a parent and I'm not enabling access for anyone but me, so it didn't occur to me to look in the "Parental Controls" menu. Instead, I had to find out sideways, by spending a half hour researching this problem on Internet chat forums and review pages.Lame, lame, and lame.2) Some things outside the cart have 1-click ordering enabled.I discovered mysterious charges appearing on my credit card. It turns out I somehow signed up for a "Kindle Unlimited Membership" without knowing it. Worse, it went to the wrong credit card, because I HATE 1-click ordering and have never configured it. I got the charge reversed by grumbling my way down Amazon's annoying dispute rabbit hole until I initiated a phone call, but this is sneaky and underhanded at best. Watch your credit cards, or if you have to, remove them from your Amazon account so you don't accidentally "order" stuff you wouldn't pay for. During the call and subsequently, I have discovered that many things that say "free" are only free if you already have a Kindle Unlimited Membership ($9.99), and that is purchased automatically on your behalf when you click the button to get the free thing, so that's probably how I got it.I do not yet know if blocking Amazon purchases through Parental Controls also blocks these 1-click purchases. Since each category of Amazon content has its own section in Parental Controls, I would be unsurprised to find that "agreeing" to download some kind of media I unblocked also allows Amazon to automatically charge me for it. I just don't know yet.3) There are ads everywhere.The most prominent ads are right on the lock screen, but they pop up in other places too, more as you get farther from the home screen. I haven't found a way to turn them off, and there probably isn't one (without rooting the device). It's more than a little annoying to pay over $100 for a device and still not fully own it, but I suspect these ads are how Amazon subsidizes the Fire HD pricing that undercuts all the competition.4) The battery life is pretty bad.It improves remarkably if you turn off wi-fi (or put the device in Airplane Mode), but the device is fundamentally power hungry. If you still want to be reading your Kindle library after 12 hours away from live outlets, get a Kindle, not a Fire tablet.5) This device really wants Internet access.Nearly everything is expected to get onto the Fire HD through the wi-fi. It has no cell service. You can put content onto the device flash (or the micro-SDXC card if you have one) over a USB cable connected to a computer, but that experience is not exactly effortless or glitch-free.6) Updates are automatic and unsolicited.I keep finding my Fire HD 8 updating some random app I didn't even know was loaded. Amazon has tried to make it "easy" for you by just doing all this annoying updating and refreshing and downloading of new subscribed content for you, without bothering you. That's nice, except it's also how viruses spread, memory disappears unaccountably, apps change behavior or disappear without notice, ads appear and disappear, and old content you remember downloading evaporates silently (when Amazon decides it's unlicensed).The best way I've found around all this is to keep the device in Airplane Mode all the time, enable wifi only for specific update activities (like refreshing my periodical subscriptions), and watch the notifications while I have it on. PITA.
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