Instant Flavour Bag XL, Set of 2

contrary to the picture there is no valve, that's just two bags (complete with holes where the flavor valve should go). had to go and buy regular brine bags (thus 2 stars) so first pick up Vacu Vin Instant Flavour Set as these ones are useless without (I just did, will change the rating as appropriate). UPDATE: don't bother. I've got the set and tried to brine a goose. I was extremely lucky - the bag teared open with the hole the size of my fist *before* I poured the brine in. I had extras and I'm stubborn, so I tried the vacuum thing, this time putting the bag in the regular one, just in case. that didn't work very well. the spices were all vacuumed on top where I would imagine they would have chance close to zero to enhance the flavor. so, just use regular bags. this product is crap.