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Command 17017CLR-VP Round Cord

$7.34
$10.49 30% off Reference Price
Condition: New
Color: Clear
Size: 10 Clips
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Top positive review
57 people found this helpful
Great for holding round cords 3-6 mm thick
By PelvicSurgeon on Reviewed in the United States on May 17, 2013
I had a project in mind, knew I wanted a product like this, but needed the internal dimensions of the clip to decide which variety and size of cord clip to buy. Unfortunately, at the time, I didn't realize that the bottom of the product page for this item has a, "Customer Questions and Answers," box where one can ask such things as dimension of the Amazon community. I could have saved myself a lot of time by asking there. What I did instead was run to a slew of Brick&Mortar stores trying to eyeball the product. Yes, a slew, because none of the stores had this product even in a non-clear version. In the end, I realized that I could just order these from Amazon to eyeball them; the A-Z guarantee coupled with a Prime Membership provides virtual Kevlar in Amazonarenia (my term for the virtual arena of Amazon). The internal radius of the cylindrical clip part is exactly 1 cm. The cord I clipped was 0.6 cm and round in cross-section. These were a perfect match, meaning that the cord was just difficult enough to slide into the clip that nothing will make it slide out on it's own, yet manually easy enough to intentionally remove from the clip to be used for non-permanent or semi-permanent fixation. I don't think you could force a cord any fatter than 0.6 cm (6mm) through the opening to be held by this clip. However, a cord with a cross-sectional diameter less than 0.3 cm (3mm) probably will not stay in the clip. After two VERY bad experiences with a posh and well-regarded Home Theater Custom Installation Company, I decided to wire the whole thing myself when my A/V Receiver burned out (due to the SECOND improper installation by aforementioned service provider). I also decided to upgrade my 5.1 Surround to 7.2 (by adding a set of rear speakers and an additional subwoofer). Since the room is large and the speaker wires had to pass by other electronics, including a CPU, I decided that I needed wire that was rated for in wall and for long runs. I'm very happy that I chose this Monster XP-CI BIG-100 100 feet Speaker Cable, which is circular (not oval) in cross-section and 6mm, by my trusty ruler (calipers would've been more accurate, but I'm a doctor not an A/V guy). I couldn't use the standard staple gun for the installation because the wire had to pass long runs of glass (mirrors) and metal (radiators). So, I decided on the clear command clips. They worked like a dream for my purpose. One note regarding the clear adhesive strips. I wasn't that proficient at applying them at first and I wasted a few of the adhesive strips. Each box of 10 clips comes with 12 adhesive strips (i.e. you can only waste 2). Not realizing that my skill would quickly improve, I thought I'd need more than 2 per 10 to waste and ordered these refill strips Command Small Refill Strips, White, 20-Strip by mistake instead of the exact replacement which was Command Small Refill Strips, Clear, 12-Strip, 6-Pack. No biggie. I was an idiot and got white strips instead of clear. I'm actually glad I made the mistake, though, because the white adhesive strips ARE BETTER than the clear ones. Ironically, the white ones adhere more quickly (shorter setting time before usage) and yet once cured, they are removed more easily and with less potential for damage. The trick with the clear strips is to let them cure before applying any force (putting anything in the clip) for LONGER THAN 1 HOUR. The manufacturer recommends 1 hour, but some of the early waste of adhesive strips was due to detachment when I tried to force the wire through the clip only 1 hour after applying the clip to the wall. I learned quickly, and let the clips cure for 3-6 hours subsequently with better results the longer I waited. Unfortunately, I tried to remove one of the adherent clips (meaning one that was stuck to the wall for many hours before its 1st use) and I wasn't careful enough. I pulled the tab at a very slight angle away from the wall, and it removed a small chip of paint with it - my fault not the product's. The white ones are easier to remove without accidentally pulling at an angle because they are spongy and thicker (like regular double-stick foam tape) so they start out a few mm from the wall. Hard to describe, but the clear stips are flatter (like double-stick Scotch Tape), and thus lie flatter on your wall. Unless you are VERY careful, it's difficult to pull absolutely against the wall. Tweezers might help there. Note : I believe that the speaker wire I ordered is 14 AWG, because it was recommended for runs of 50 feet or more. That would mean, I think, that each wire would be 1.62 mm in diameter; so how do I measure the wire at 6mm? Well, there are 2 wires (pos and neg)that are twisted (compacted and thus thicker), and each has its own plastic jacket, and there is a nylon(?) thread added to the mix as well as a heavy outer jacket. All of this stuff adds up to 6 mm. The 14 AWG also made sense when I had to strip the inner jackets off to apply these awesome banana clips, Monster QuickLock MKII Gold Banana Connectors For Easy Self Crimping Terminations - 2 pr, at the receiver-end, because the slot that fit this wire on my wire-stripper was labeled, "14." I could be wrong, though. After consulting several sources, including Monster's own website, I am still not 100% certain of the gauge of the wire I used. It works well for my longest run of about 68 feet from this receiver, Onkyo TX-NR809 THX Certified 7.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver (Black), to these speakers, BOSE 301-V Stereo Loudspeakers (Pair) - Black, producing no detectable distortion.
Top critical review
2 people found this helpful
Used for CAT6/CAT5E ethernet cables.
By Androo on Reviewed in the United States on December 30, 2015
The adhesive clear sticky things these clips come with did not stick onto any parts of my wall. They just keep falling off as soon as I put any wires in, couldn't hold the weight. I bought "Command Medium Mounting Refill Strips" and cut them into three pieces for each clip. Works great and these clips are well built and hold up well now. Would have been better if the adhesive it came with worked without me having to buy an additional different one because that is half the product. Satisfied with it now and ran a CAT6 wire across my wall and ceiling. It looks like each clip would only have room for one CAT6 wire, you might be able to squeeze two in but it'd be tough. Still, thats all I needed

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