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NOCO Genius G3500 Charger & Maintainer

$34.99
$79.99 56% off Reference Price
Condition: New
Model: G3500
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17 people found this helpful
Simple
By A. Mefford on Reviewed in the United States on October 31, 2016
I purchased this to complete a simpler on-shore charging system for my boat, the kit will work for any situation where you need to periodically charge or maintain 12volt batteries. The Noco charger works great and has enough power to top off my batteries over night after a day at the lake. I also used it to keep my batteries fresh over the winter and that also was not a problem. Operation is nearly brainless, connect it and power it up. The intelligent circuit does the rest, determining what battery and the battery condition. Included in the kit are both alligator clips and ring terminals. What was not included was an SAE adapter. While the Noco connector is an excellent design, it is not the standard SAE connector and a separate adapter must be purchased to use it with standard equipment such as standard ring terminals. As you'll read below, I needed to be able to swap between the Noco and a solar charger, so I needed a standard connection. The charging solution I am using this with includes two different charging sources, a Suaoki 60Watt solar and a Noco Genius G3500 Smart Charger. Both are great and provide a similar amount of power to the batteries. The solar charger does not work so well at night though, and the wall charger does not work when out camping on the boat. Suaoki 60Watt Solar http://amzn.to/2w1ylpK Noco Genius G3500 http://amzn.to/2gan697 Using the Suaoki solar charger requires the using of a solar charge controller for safety. The Suaoki can be directly connected to the battery, but then the voltage must be monitored as it can overcharge your batteries and lead to premature failure or worse. I am using the Instapark PWM charge controller for this task and it is a perfect match to the system. http://amzn.to/2xg7pAW The NOCO Genius uses properietary connectors and while it comes with a few different options, none of them made it compatible with my requirements. I ordered the NOCO to SAE adapter and now it connects to a standard SAE plug and works well, interchangably with the Solar charger. http://amzn.to/2wrOxl0 In order to add flexibility in placing the solar panel or connecting the NOCO charger, I added an SAE extension. Essentially this is a 12V extension cord. Any SAE to SAE cable will work provided it has sufficient gauge(AWG). For a 15ft length this should be at least 12AWG with 10AWG or even 8AWG being better. For a 5ft length 16AWG or 14AWG will be acceptable, of course 12,10 or 8 still better. Anything smaller less than those maxiums will degrade the charging capacity as it will cause an significant voltage drop. Here are a couple alternatives that look good. Kuncan 12ft SAE to SAE http://amzn.to/2iuIzdu Tetra-Teknica MotoBasic 10AWG 3 Feet, 2 per Pack http://amzn.to/2g7VT6S I used two ring terminal to SAE adapters, one for each battery, as the aligator clamps were problematic and not particularly reliable. The aligator clamps meant that I had to climb into the compartment where the batteries are stored in the boat and almost always insured a good bump on the head. Sometimes I would come back the next morning to find one had fallen off. Using ring terminals insures a secure connection to the battery and allows me to quickly connect/disconnect without bumping my head. I used the Tetra-Teknica MotoBasics 16 gauge 2 feet 10A fused 2 pack for my solution. http://amzn.to/2w89HlT In order to charge the two batteries in parallel, I needed to add an SAE Y adapter. The OptiMate Y-splitter worked nicely. I disconnect it when not charging as I do not want power accidentally pulled accross this connection if the boat is using a single battery. I am looking for a solution, a diode that will allow me to keep this connected permanently without that risk. http://amzn.to/2w1wjG0 The system is working well and keeping my batteries topped off between outings without a problem.
Top critical review
2 people found this helpful
Warranty not worth the paper it's printed on
By John Ellis on Reviewed in the United States on December 10, 2017
Update: April 2020 One of the indicators on the front panel has died. When the unit is first plugged in the lamp for the .9A cold/agm setting doesn't light up. Unfortunately...in order to get into subsequent modes from this point, you have to first enter this mode, then hold the button down for several seconds. Since this lamp is out, it's kind of a guess and takes quite a bit of fiddling now to get into that mode. When I contacted NOCO about a warranty return/replacement their answer was that I needed to send it back to them, including a check for 35% of the current MSRP. So...in essence they're going to simply sell me a new one at their manufacturing cost. Wow.....what a great warranty, NOT!!!! Original Review: I got this specifically to try and rejuvenate a variety of 12 and 18Ah batteries I had sitting around from different projects (scooters, UPS, etc.). What I've determined so far is that it will "help" a borderline battery just a bit (at least according to my tester) but if a battery is very far gone (been discharged below 10VDC) then there's little chance of success. While the tester is on you can see the % charged lights slowly turn on and off indicating the charge state. If you put a multimeter on the battery during this phase you'll see the voltage rise and fall in sync with the lights from about 14.5 up to about 16.5 (hard to measure with a digital voltmeter as it's constantly changing). This tells me the "secret" to the rapid charging is that they just cram an extra 2 volts of input but vary it to prevent damaging the batteries. Another reviewer indicated they use a high frequency pulsing to help break up sulfation in the "Repair mode" but my meter couldn't detect it (need an o-scope). Overall it's not a bad device for the price. It did a nice job of at least helping a set of scooter batteries that were on their way out. I've used it to top off an extra starter battery that I keep for emergencies and it brought it to 100% then tapered off. I may leave this connected to just see what kind of job the device does as a maintainer. One word of warning. I thought there were actually 2 sets of leads but there are not. The eyelets are connected to the clamps with a pair of screws. So you can have the clamps OR remove them and connect the cables directly to your battery with the eyelets (but not both). NOCO seems to sell a variety of other cables though that will connect via their proprietary quick connections on the harness (they should have just used Anderson connections). The case is plastic so don't let it come crashing to the concrete floor and it should last just fine. I wish it had a voltage display instead of the flashing lights and pushing the button to cycle through the modes is kind of annoying but it does remember the previous setting if you don't unplug it from the wall. Having some sort of battery health meter built in would be a very positive selling point. I'm doing the same thing with an external meter but it would be very beneficial to be able to see how "dead" your battery is when you first connect it.

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