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PicoBrew PICO Model C Beer Brewing Appliance

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PicoBrew PICO Model C Beer Brewing Appliance
Price: $199.99
Shipping Options:: $5 Standard (Free with Prime)
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rootat127dot0dot0dot1


quality posts: 0 Private Messages rootat127dot0dot0dot1

"[G]rains, hops, and yeast" but no malt extract? That implies the product does all-grain brewing. Or is the description inaccurate?

acraigl


quality posts: 234 Private Messages acraigl

This is kind of an unbelievable price for this unit. I think it retailed for $499 and even woot had it for $250 just a few weeks ago.

I would love to try this, but I'm very torn. The PicoPaks are about $25 and the yield is 11 12oz glasses of beer. And since the marketplace is based on partnering with known brewers, you're really not saving money with this operation over buying it from a store.

So, you'd argue, that's not the point. You can get a feel for brewing, and alter the characteristic of your beer to your liking.

That's awesome! Except, I feel like this goes 2 ways:

1. You find a real love for home brewing, but since this thing has permanent training wheels, you have to abandon it for real stuff, and you're $200+ in the hole and have to start all over. There are cheaper kits out there that let you actually homebrew -- even as a noob.

2. You get bored and tired of waiting for beer and washing everything (yes, even in the dishwasher) and decide it's just easier (and cheaper) to buy the beer you really like.

So yeah. Torn. :/

VOTE >

Ninjahedge


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Ninjahedge

I am also debating it.

$200 is a great price for this, but that "buy what we tell you" is not. Just the fact that I can get a case of Sam, Sierra or whatever random brew they have for sale over at costco for $30 a case makes the $25 for 13 that I have to clean up after (AND I have to purchase other items for like CO2) ruins it.

I would really like this, but the hassle (and complete lack of ability to truly mix your own from your own sources) is holding me back.

But, like printer ink cartridges, maybe that is the point. If you TRULY want to buy your own grains, I believe they have a model that accommodates that... but it ain't $200.

acraigl wrote:This is kind of an unbelievable price for this unit. I think it retailed for $499 and even woot had it for $250 just a few weeks ago.

I would love to try this, but I'm very torn. The PicoPaks are about $25 and the yield is 11 12oz glasses of beer. And since the marketplace is based on partnering with known brewers, you're really not saving money with this operation over buying it from a store.

So, you'd argue, that's not the point. You can get a feel for brewing, and alter the characteristic of your beer to your liking.

That's awesome! Except, I feel like this goes 2 ways:

1. You find a real love for home brewing, but since this thing has permanent training wheels, you have to abandon it for real stuff, and you're $200+ in the hole and have to start all over. There are cheaper kits out there that let you actually homebrew -- even as a noob.

2. You get bored and tired of waiting for beer and washing everything (yes, even in the dishwasher) and decide it's just easier (and cheaper) to buy the beer you really like.

So yeah. Torn. :/



bbkf


quality posts: 4 Private Messages bbkf

I don't understand...if it's all grain brewing, why do you have to buy the ingredient packs?

Can't you just buy grain, hops, and yeast and brew what ever?

patric9956


quality posts: 15 Private Messages patric9956

It is grain brewing. While you folks debate, I just bought my second one. This will make a great wedding gift from the crazy uncle. I'll bet it gets more use than dishes or a toaster.

bbqpope


quality posts: 4 Private Messages bbqpope
acraigl wrote:This is kind of an unbelievable price for this unit. I think it retailed for $499 and even woot had it for $250 just a few weeks ago.

I would love to try this, but I'm very torn. The PicoPaks are about $25 and the yield is 11 12oz glasses of beer. And since the marketplace is based on partnering with known brewers, you're really not saving money with this operation over buying it from a store.

So, you'd argue, that's not the point. You can get a feel for brewing, and alter the characteristic of your beer to your liking.

That's awesome! Except, I feel like this goes 2 ways:

1. You find a real love for home brewing, but since this thing has permanent training wheels, you have to abandon it for real stuff, and you're $200+ in the hole and have to start all over. There are cheaper kits out there that let you actually homebrew -- even as a noob.

2. You get bored and tired of waiting for beer and washing everything (yes, even in the dishwasher) and decide it's just easier (and cheaper) to buy the beer you really like.

So yeah. Torn. :/



Point #2 - I never had a unit like this, but after several years of brewing my own beer, I decided it was easier to just buy beer. Cleaning bottles and dealing with the mess just wasn't my thing.

jmacas429


quality posts: 0 Private Messages jmacas429

So my 2 cents on the brewer:

I bought it a few weeks ago when woot had it for $250 and ive done 2 batches so far. Both tasted great. I think it was a mixture of being freshly made and the semi-pride of making it myself. First one I did was natural carbonated and the 2nd was forced carbonated. Forced is the wait to go if you don't want to wait a life time.

As for the pico paks, they recently started shipping empty packs so you can add your own mixes which should make the price easier to swallow. Also, they tend to run sales pretty often. There was a deal for 6-packs this week for $100.

Lastly, i've used it in sous vide mode for steaks and sweet baby Jesus those steaks were amazing. I've also done a few desserts in the cooker that were great.

So to sum it up $200 is a steal, buy it!


acraigl wrote:This is kind of an unbelievable price for this unit. I think it retailed for $499 and even woot had it for $250 just a few weeks ago.

I would love to try this, but I'm very torn. The PicoPaks are about $25 and the yield is 11 12oz glasses of beer. And since the marketplace is based on partnering with known brewers, you're really not saving money with this operation over buying it from a store.

So, you'd argue, that's not the point. You can get a feel for brewing, and alter the characteristic of your beer to your liking.

That's awesome! Except, I feel like this goes 2 ways:

1. You find a real love for home brewing, but since this thing has permanent training wheels, you have to abandon it for real stuff, and you're $200+ in the hole and have to start all over. There are cheaper kits out there that let you actually homebrew -- even as a noob.

2. You get bored and tired of waiting for beer and washing everything (yes, even in the dishwasher) and decide it's just easier (and cheaper) to buy the beer you really like.

So yeah. Torn. :/



Ed3rd


quality posts: 12 Private Messages Ed3rd
jmacas429 wrote:
As for the pico paks, they recently started shipping empty packs so you can add your own mixes which should make the price easier to swallow.



Do you have a link? I cannot find the empty packs on the main site, and the Pico U Kickstarter which the DIY PicoPaks was related to has been postponed (cancelled).

After having been burned by promised features, I buy a product based on what it can do at the time of sale as opposed to what it is promised to do in the future.



ricka182


quality posts: 21 Private Messages ricka182

This isn't homebrewing. Not even close. It's a shortcut and you will learn nothing about zymurgy.

You would learn more and make a higher quality product using an extract kit in your kitchen, seriously. And for a lot money, and you get the satisfaction of doing some real work and having hands on.

I've been doing all-grain brewing with $2000 of equipment for over 10 years now, so yeah, I can speak on what's good for homebrewing.

...i remain, he who remains to be...

X14

EddieHaskel


quality posts: 2 Private Messages EddieHaskel

Go to any brew supply online and get a starter kit for $100. You can make a five-gallon batch vs a 5-liter batch. No for $100 it won’t be all grain equipment but it will still make better beer than you can get in a store and you actually made it, not just pressed a button. Then after a year if you really get into things you can make the mash tun and hot water tank for under $100 to go all grain. Tons of youtube videos to show you how. You can make a 5-gallon batch for $30, which is what a pack cost at Pico for Just 12 bottles. You can buy the best 12 pack for less money than what the Pico charges you to make it. That just does not make sense to me. I’ve been brewing over 20 years and the fun of it is mixing it all together and standing over the brew pot stirring and adding hops ect… It is a great price on this machine but I just can’t see paying more to make the craft brew than you can buy it for at the store or the brewery. Just my 2c.

Wooter878967253


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Wooter878967253
jmacas429 wrote:So my 2 cents on the brewer:

I bought it a few weeks ago when woot had it for $250 and ive done 2 batches so far. Both tasted great. I think it was a mixture of being freshly made and the semi-pride of making it myself. First one I did was natural carbonated and the 2nd was forced carbonated. Forced is the wait to go if you don't want to wait a life time.

As for the pico paks, they recently started shipping empty packs so you can add your own mixes which should make the price easier to swallow. Also, they tend to run sales pretty often. There was a deal for 6-packs this week for $100.

Lastly, i've used it in sous vide mode for steaks and sweet baby Jesus those steaks were amazing. I've also done a few desserts in the cooker that were great.

So to sum it up $200 is a steal, buy it!



I bit for one at $225 a couple weeks ago (yep, dammit WOOT!!) and that was part of the appeal (sous vide). I'd like to hear more about your experience with that.

I also like the idea of the still add-on for customizing and oil extraction but used to be a chemist in a past life. This seemed like a soft entry back into that world, so to speak.

Finally, I would point out some packs are sold on Bed, Bath and Beyond and you can use the coupons when ordering and save money that way!

Cheers!

patruns


quality posts: 0 Private Messages patruns

Having done my own brewing for many years I can see the appeal, but as many said once you start doing this you will want to do some real brewing and this will just be a $200 paper weight. Seriously, get the Charlie Papazian guide to home brewing and read it cover to cover. Then decide the route you want to go. This is like buying a Keurig. It's convenient but it's not the real thing. I stopped brewing because I went as far as I wanted and it was just easier and cheaper to buy my beer from the store. Now most of the distributors sell growlers so there is no excuse not to have fresh brew in your fridge. I also work in a bar with 24 taps so there is that....

bradarnett


quality posts: 0 Private Messages bradarnett

It definitely sounds like the Keurig of beer brewing.

Real beer brewing starter kits start at about $100. A complete extract kit is usually around 20-40 bucks, and that setup gets you 5 gallons. It's about a day or so work, but that's also about 40-50 beers rather than 11...

Ask4Fish


quality posts: 8 Private Messages Ask4Fish
bbqpope wrote:Point #2 - I never had a unit like this, but after several years of brewing my own beer, I decided it was easier to just buy beer. Cleaning bottles and dealing with the mess just wasn't my thing.


Ditto. I brewed my own for 12 years, and even got pretty good at it. But eventually you figure out that buying it is WAY easier (and cheaper in the long run). I do have friends that have been brewing for 25+ years. I guess you pick your own hobbies.

nabutu


quality posts: 3 Private Messages nabutu
Ask4Fish wrote: I guess you pick your own hobbies.



MY hobby is buying a 12-pack of Miller or Coors at the nearest store and draining it in front of the Telly. My tastes are limited, but I know what I like.

jerry465


quality posts: 0 Private Messages jerry465

I have it. My analogy is this. This is like a automated bread maker. You can buy cheap bread for cheaper than making it. You can get equivalent or artisan bread for equal/lower/higher than making it. You can get cheaper bread making kits, but they may not be as automated.

So who should buy it. Anyone who wants the experience of making beer at home with high automation, and can stomach the cleaning and sanitation that goes with it.


draigun


quality posts: 32 Private Messages draigun
Ask4Fish wrote:Ditto. I brewed my own for 12 years, and even got pretty good at it. But eventually you figure out that buying it is WAY easier (and cheaper in the long run). I do have friends that have been brewing for 25+ years. I guess you pick your own hobbies.



It's worth it if you plan to make it a career. My sister's friend went from hobbyist home brewer to head brewmaster at a pretty popular restaurant downtown in my city.

jmacas429


quality posts: 0 Private Messages jmacas429

Sorry, jammed 2 ideas together at once. Right now i've used the "FreeStyle" crafter to make my own pack. Forgot that the U got cancelled. I would guess the empty packs will be released soon. It just a pack with out the fixings.


Ed3rd wrote:Do you have a link? I cannot find the empty packs on the main site, and the Pico U Kickstarter which the DIY PicoPaks was related to has been postponed (cancelled).

After having been burned by promised features, I buy a product based on what it can do at the time of sale as opposed to what it is promised to do in the future.



jmacas429


quality posts: 0 Private Messages jmacas429

Sous vide cooking has changed me. I have never had a steak so good before. I'm going to try pork chops this weekend.

As for desserts, I've done creme brulée that was pretty good. Cheesecake was good, but one of my jars had a bad seal.

Veggies - Carrots and potatoes were good.

I would check https://lifehacker.com/c/will-it-sous-vide for ideas.

Wooter878967253 wrote:I bit for one at $225 a couple weeks ago (yep, dammit WOOT!!) and that was part of the appeal (sous vide). I'd like to hear more about your experience with that.

I also like the idea of the still add-on for customizing and oil extraction but used to be a chemist in a past life. This seemed like a soft entry back into that world, so to speak.

Finally, I would point out some packs are sold on Bed, Bath and Beyond and you can use the coupons when ordering and save money that way!

Cheers!



threadstone


quality posts: 0 Private Messages threadstone

I don't get it. At. All.

Why invest $200 in this when you could invest less than $100 in a nice 6-7 gallon stainless steel pot, a 6 gallon carboy with the proper airlock and actually brew beer properly. And Use the difference to buy high quality ingredients.

This isn't training wheels. This is the equivalent of buying an impact wrench and 80 gallon compressor to fix your leaking toilets. Sure, I could use it, but why?

And this thing sold for $500 at one time?!? Whoa...

Ariala


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Ariala
threadstone wrote:I don't get it. At. All.

Why invest $200 in this when you could invest less than $100 in a nice 6-7 gallon stainless steel pot, a 6 gallon carboy with the proper airlock and actually brew beer properly. And Use the difference to buy high quality ingredients.

This isn't training wheels. This is the equivalent of buying an impact wrench and 80 gallon compressor to fix your leaking toilets. Sure, I could use it, but why?

And this thing sold for $500 at one time?!? Whoa...



There are a lot of different levels of brewing out there and this isn't going to work for everyone. But, for some people it does.

I haven't use one, but it looks easy to figure out. It's small, self contained and there is room to play with your own recipes. There doesn't seem to be much cleanup.

I've been a professional, award winning master brewer for years. I've worked on systems of all sizes. I started off with extracts on my stove and moved up to all grain.

Personally, I need a minimum of several large pots, temperature probes, fermenters, airlocks, transfer hoses, a wort chiller, hop bags, hydrometer, etc. I could easily spend $200 on just a wort chiller. A 7 gallon pot and a fermenter wouldn't be enough for me.

I'm not being critical of your setup. There is a lot of different equipment out there for brewing. It's a matter of what works for you and what can afford. I think it's great that you found what works for you.

I see this system for someone that likes to play around with recipes or wants to keep things simple...or both. This is not a serious, money saving production machine. But, if someone wants just wants to have fun, I say go for it. Besides, you never know where it may lead.




jmacas429


quality posts: 0 Private Messages jmacas429

Because it's 2 machines in one. It's a brewer and its a sous vide cooker. Add all the extras the Pico U and PicoStill give and the cost becomes palatable.


threadstone wrote:I don't get it. At. All.

Why invest $200 in this when you could invest less than $100 in a nice 6-7 gallon stainless steel pot, a 6 gallon carboy with the proper airlock and actually brew beer properly. And Use the difference to buy high quality ingredients.

This isn't training wheels. This is the equivalent of buying an impact wrench and 80 gallon compressor to fix your leaking toilets. Sure, I could use it, but why?

And this thing sold for $500 at one time?!? Whoa...



threadstone


quality posts: 0 Private Messages threadstone
jmacas429 wrote:Because it's 2 machines in one. It's a brewer and its a sous vide cooker. Add all the extras the Pico U and PicoStill give and the cost becomes palatable.



I didn't realize it was a brewer AND a sous vide machine. I've had some good results with sous vide using my Igloo cooler hack - I don't think the extra function would really change my mind.

Thanks for the info.

Makes me think of this ...

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/shimmer-floor-wax/n8625

Wooter456210858


quality posts: 0 Private Messages Wooter456210858

Just brought one! However I'm frustrated that I had to ship it to my son in Virginia since Woot won't ship to Hawaii. The frustration comes from the fact that Amazon is fulfilling the order and specifically states that it is being shipped from Amazon who ships for free to Hawaii for Prime Members. I then I just got lied to by Woot's customer service that Woot was receiving the item and then shipping it to me. So I probably have another $50 in shipping cost ahead of me. Still a good deal.

Wooter456210858


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Ariala wrote:There are a lot of different levels of brewing out there and this isn't going to work for everyone. But, for some people it does.

I haven't use one, but it looks easy to figure out. It's small, self contained and there is room to play with your own recipes. There doesn't seem to be much cleanup.

I've been a professional, award winning master brewer for years. I've worked on systems of all sizes. I started off with extracts on my stove and moved up to all grain.

Personally, I need a minimum of several large pots, temperature probes, fermenters, airlocks, transfer hoses, a wort chiller, hop bags, hydrometer, etc. I could easily spend $200 on just a wort chiller. A 7 gallon pot and a fermenter wouldn't be enough for me.

I'm not being critical of your setup. There is a lot of different equipment out there for brewing. It's a matter of what works for you and what can afford. I think it's great that you found what works for you.

I see this system for someone that likes to play around with recipes or wants to keep things simple...or both. This is not a serious, money saving production machine. But, if someone wants just wants to have fun, I say go for it. Besides, you never know where it may lead.



"Well Said"!

typhillips


quality posts: 0 Private Messages typhillips

Just bought one! Read through everyone's comments and there are some great points all around.

As for me, I'm a fairly experienced home brewer- about 9 years. I've done extract, all grain, some recipe formulation. Started on stove top and have used banjo burners with 5-15 gallon setups. I have plenty of brewing and fermenting equipment already, and I'm not looking to REPLACE it with automation, but it would be nice once in a while.

I MOSTLY think of the pico c as a self-contained sous-vide with a Keurig approach to homebrewing as a bonus. So, essentially a kitchen gadget/toy. This would/will be MUCH more useful if there's a way to reuse brewpaks or buy a 3rd party "blank" one inexpensively. For right now, though, I know that each pak has a serial number associated with it that prevents such things. *sigh*

After a bit of research, it looks like their "Z series" is by far the most professional approach if you want to test recipes. But... it costs 10x the price of this one!

Overall, even though the Z series is better, I think 200 is a low enough price to chance buying a sous vide that can moonlight as an automated brewing machine. Guess I'll see how it works for me! :D