Oh look, another desktop computer by HP.....I hope its a refurb!

Not a refurb. It's actually a good deal despite it being a previous generation (HP is already promoting the H9's)

Even with my employee participation partnership discount, my price through that program comes out to $967. Can't beat Woot!

BIGsinner wrote:Not a refurb. It's actually a good deal despite it being a previous generation (HP is already promoting the H9's)

Even with my employee participation partnership discount, my price through that program comes out to $967. Can't beat Woot!

Thought so. This desktop is decked out. Considering it .......

This is a good machine- I just got the same, minus bluray and with a diff graphics card at Costco for $600. Bluray and the higher end graphics are probably worth the extra for some folks. In general, the machine is quite snappy.

Nice.

Also the same computer & model is at the HP store below . . .

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/HP-Pavilion/B4J27AV?HP-Pavilion-HPE-h8-1360t-Desktop-PC

HP Pavilion HPE h8-1360t Desktop PC

Starting at:
$979.99
After savings:
$829.99*
Save $ 150.00 or 15.3%**

Just now stepped thru the process of selecting only the no-charge features to add to cart on the HP store website to find the $829.99 price has 3 lesser features which are:

- 300W power supply instead of Woot's better 460W PS.

- SuperMulti DVD Burner instead of Woot's better Blu-ray ROM with DVD Burner.

- 1GB DDR3 AMD Radeon HD 7570 instead of Woot's better 3GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 640.

someone bought 3?

i don't like HPs nor their power button on top of the case, but woot rarely sells anything other than HP and i wanted a new computer for video editing. this should do it i hope. maybe add another 8 gigs of ram later

smaug37 wrote:This is a good machine- I just got the same, minus bluray and with a diff graphics card at Costco for $600. Bluray and the higher end graphics are probably worth the extra for some folks. In general, the machine is quite snappy.

Congrats on finding that good deal. Here's a couple web links about that being offered twice in the past at Costco:

http://dealnews.com/HP-Pavilion-HPE-Ivy-Bridge-Core-i7-Quad-3.4-GHz-PC-from-600-30-s-h/604251.html

Costco offers its members the HP Pavilion HPE h8-1360T Intel Ivy Bridge Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz Desktop PC (no monitor), for $599.99. Posted August 14, 2012


http://dealnews.com/HP-Pavilion-HPE-Ivy-Bridge-Core-i7-Quad-3.4-GHz-PC-from-600-30-s-h/600728.html

Costco offers its members the HP Pavilion HPE h8-1360T Intel Ivy Bridge Core i7 Quad 3.4GHz Desktop PC (no monitor), for $599.99. Posted August 3, 2012

Just to clarify a previous post, this is the latest Intel Chip and Chipset available, Ivy Bridge. It may not be the latest H.P. I have the k version of this processor, and most people will never use half the power of this CPU. I can't comment on H.P. pc's, I build my own.

The processor in this machine is awesome. Dont expect much from the graphics card though. You will need to replace it and change out the power supply to a 600w if you want to do some serious gaming/graphic stuff.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770+%40+3.40GHz

dtcbob wrote:The processor in this machine is awesome. Dont expect much from the graphics card though. You will need to replace it and change out the power supply to a 600w if you want to do some serious gaming/graphic stuff.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770+%40+3.40GHz

Any decent name brand power supply rated at ~500w will work fine for a single CPU and GPU (unless you're trying for a 690 when they get released) even with an extra hard drive or two added in, 600 is more for dual GPU systems.

That said, HP doesn't use name brand power supplies, so I wouldn't exactly trust the rating this comes with, they have a habit of only going to 50-60% of what they say before not being reliable.

Will this work for me? I'm looking for an office machine that can support my lazy habit of having many apps open and running at once. I don't game, but I typically have half a dozen files each of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook open at once plus OneNote, an audio player, 6+ IE windows with 6 or so tabs open in each window ... I would also like to stream video from this box in the future.

I'm fine with stuffing extra RAM in, and usually build my own PCs, but if this a good fit, I'll go with it. If not, what is?

Thanks!

I must admit to my own sense of brand snobbery, (nothing less than a Dell would cut the mustard). HP's are undoubtedly the most ubiquitous machines out there - and you can't sneeze at that. The holy triumvirate in the U.S. is HP, Dell and Acer (in order of sales).
I always thumbed my nose at HP as being inferior.
But hey; I know tons of folks who do VERY WELL with Pavilions, and would own nothing else.
Perhaps I'm growing wiser in my old age, but I'd have NO PROBLEM owning an HP.
And Woot offers great HP deals: This Pavilion has some pretty serious cojones for the dough. I'm impressed!

You could build a computer so much better than this with the money it costs.. But if you are lazy, and/or don't know how to put together a box, then get this.

dtcbob wrote:The processor in this machine is awesome. Dont expect much from the graphics card though. You will need to replace it and change out the power supply to a 600w if you want to do some serious gaming/graphic stuff.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770+%40+3.40GHz

I agree with replacing the Power Supply. The 460W PS is a little on the meager side. I suggest a 600W PS if you are going to play current gen games on this machine.

I do think the video card is decent for gaming, and you shouldn't worry about replacing it unless you need to have the latest and greatest video card. The hottest cards that Nvidia has for around $300 are the GTX 660s. Without using benchmarks, most people are not going to notice a difference between the video cards, espcecially since both have the same amount of cores (384)

The only thing I'm wondering, with all the bells & whistles packed into this beast, where's the bluetooth?

powerpack wrote:You could build a computer so much better than this with the money it costs.. But if you are lazy, and/or don't know how to put together a box, then get this.

I would dearly love to hear a suggested list of components. I have a BD-RW drive, several int. 1TB SATA drives, an ext. 3TB USB 3.0 drive and a monitor already.

Doesn't this seem a little pricey for Woot? Am I on the Amazon website by mistake? The blurring of these two keeps getting worse IMHO. Seems like it doesn't pay to stay up late anymore.

BIGsinner wrote:I agree with replacing the Power Supply. The 460W PS is a little on the meager side. I suggest a 600W PS if you are going to play current gen games on this machine.

I do think the video card is decent for gaming, and you shouldn't worry about replacing it unless you need to have the latest and greatest video card. The hottest cards that Nvidia has for around $300 are the GTX 660s. Without using benchmarks, most people are not going to notice a difference between the video cards, espcecially since both have the same amount of cores (384)

The only thing I'm wondering, with all the bells & whistles packed into this beast, where's the bluetooth?

I was just wondering where the bluetooth was myself. Didn't see it in specs or features.

casey00001 wrote:Doesn't this seem a little pricey for Woot? Am I on the Amazon website by mistake? The blurring of these two keeps getting worse IMHO. Seems like it doesn't pay to stay up late anymore.

I think you may be used to seeing refurbished PC prices on woot.

The Postal Service now forbids shipping lithium batteries, or any items containing them, outside the US. We need a stateside physical address to ship your order to. Sorry, APO/FPO customers.

i wasn't aware they were making lithium battery-powered desktop computers these days.

I bought this last time and set it up as a home-based software development test server with Server 2008, storage and SFTP server. I use a Kingston HyperX 240GB SDD drive as the primary and added another 8GB of RAM. It absolutely screams.
The included 1TB drive is still installed as a secondary drive but I never even booted up the included OS. I can't compare the speed with the SDD and total 16GB RAM vs. how it was delivered.
I don't push the video card whatsoever with what I use it for, so I cannot comment on that.
Four USB 3.0 ports is fantastic since I use this as storage.
It is also whisper-silent. I can barely tell it is on.

This is a beast for software development and also Virtual Machines.

Thanks for the info.

I do have an HP. It is pretty good except the HP photo bloatware makes it difficult to open and almost impossible to print some types of files such as jpeg, etc.

It's actually $1109.99 configured the same on the HP website, so a little more savings than 20%.

nfurlong wrote:Will this work for me? I'm looking for an office machine that can support my lazy habit of having many apps open and running at once. I don't game, but I typically have half a dozen files each of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook open at once plus OneNote, an audio player, 6+ IE windows with 6 or so tabs open in each window ... I would also like to stream video from this box in the future.

I'm fine with stuffing extra RAM in, and usually build my own PCs, but if this a good fit, I'll go with it. If not, what is?

Thanks!

This PC would be Massive overkill for you. A more mainstream Intel i5 based unit would make you plenty happy. HP and Dell models can be had for $500-600 with the i5 and the same amount of RAM & hard drive space.

(BTW, I do similar stuff as do you on an i5 with SSD/HD I built and it sings nicely)

davidlhartman wrote:I was just wondering where the bluetooth was myself. Didn't see it in specs or features.

http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/HP-Pavilion/B4J27AV?HP-Pavilion-HPE-h8-1360t-Desktop-PC

This model can be configured with or without bluetooth according to the HP site. Having said that, a bluetooth adapter is like $10. The bigger misconfiguration is when you make a PC with these specs and you put a blu-ray rom/combo drive in it instead of a blu-ray burner. The prices are virtually the same anymore for either drive - you can get them for about $60 on sale. This would be a perfect system for video editing if it only had the blu-ray burner included. It's easy to add one, it's just silly it wasn't configured with one. I guess you could say the same of the bluetooth also. You would think at this level of computer (and price point) it would probably be cheaper and easier to offer just the premium configurations vs splitting hairs on components that are only are only few dollars apart in cost.

This isn't a bad deal, processor is great, videocard is decent, ram is adequate, power supply is good for this configuration, hard drive is OK, bluray should be a burner. What I suggest if you buy this:

For about $150
1) buy an SSD drive 120gb and clone the OS to this drive, use the 7200 rpm drive for storage
2)install a blu-ray burner into this machine

After doing the above, you'll have a sweet video editing machine

oelschlegel wrote:i wasn't aware they were making lithium battery-powered desktop computers these days.

The lithium battery is the small battery in the pc that keeps power to the bios in case main power is lost. With out it the bios would lose all settings and the pc would not be able to boot.

Its nice to see Im not the only lazy guy out there. I always have 1 or 2 instances of my Browser open with 6-7 different pages open and hanging out. Add 4-5 different apps like SKYPE, Windows Live Mail, Auction Sentry, PlayOn Server, and lets add GTALK all open at the same time. I need something that can handle this without always dealing with locking up and needing to reboot.

Im running older Lenovo Desktop w/ Intel Dual Core 2.20 Ghz (E2200) w/ 64 Bit Win 7 Pro and 4 GB (all MB will handle). Can you guys suggest some current component numbers at me. Say some components that I can look for in a retail box already made (I could build a box if its that great of savings) I used to follow the current trends and now Im just an old man that doesn't like to blow cash for no reason I dont need to (thats why I been up all night Wooting!) (Sorry about lengthy post)
Thanks in advance.

BTW: Video editing is not an issue. I may do a You Tube Video now and then, but real video production I don't see in my future. Maybe some minor gaming now and then, but thats what the XBOX 360 is for

Also for comparison sake, I have a Woot purchased Lenovo Thinkpad L512 they had a while back that does a good job but still not quite there. i5, 8 GB of Ram with Win 7 Pro (Loved that deal) So I would like to top that.

And almost forgot, Multi Monitor support, Min 2 but 3 or 4 would be sweet!

What cloning software would you recommend to transfer the OS to a solid state drive? Is additional hardware required as well? Thanks.

gak0090 wrote:http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-office/-/products/Desktops/HP-Pavilion/B4J27AV?HP-Pavilion-HPE-h8-1360t-Desktop-PC

This model can be configured with or without bluetooth according to the HP site. Having said that, a bluetooth adapter is like $10. The bigger misconfiguration is when you make a PC with these specs and you put a blu-ray rom/combo drive in it instead of a blu-ray burner. The prices are virtually the same anymore for either drive - you can get them for about $60 on sale. This would be a perfect system for video editing if it only had the blu-ray burner included. It's easy to add one, it's just silly it wasn't configured with one. I guess you could say the same of the bluetooth also. You would think at this level of computer (and price point) it would probably be cheaper and easier to offer just the premium configurations vs splitting hairs on components that are only are only few dollars apart in cost.

This isn't a bad deal, processor is great, videocard is decent, ram is adequate, power supply is good for this configuration, hard drive is OK, bluray should be a burner. What I suggest if you buy this:

For about $150
1) buy an SSD drive 120gb and clone the OS to this drive, use the 7200 rpm drive for storage
2)install a blu-ray burner into this machine

After doing the above, you'll have a sweet video editing machine

I clicked the I Want One button as the write-up suggested. Unfortunately, the new layout makes me then click the Buy Now button. Joke's on you, WOOT! JOKE'S ON YOUUUU!

powerpack wrote:You could build a computer so much better than this with the money it costs.. But if you are lazy, and/or don't know how to put together a box, then get this.

Sigh.

Priced today on the egg:
3770 - $309.99
W7HP - $99.99
Case - $54.99
RAM - $39.99
VidCard - $99.99
PSU(460W) - $39.99
BluRay - $59.99
Card reader - $9.99
Motherboard - $109.99
(nothing extravagant, many of those are discounted)

If I typed all that correctly, that's $824.91. My time's worth about $50/hr and I figure it takes about two hours to open all the boxes, assemble, install, load drivers and configure. Add another $15 for cheap keyboard and mouse.

But in the end, you win because I spent 20 minutes responding. Huzzah!

EDIT: Oops, forgot the HDD +~$80.

engineire wrote:What cloning software would you recommend to transfer the OS to a solid state drive? Is additional hardware required as well? Thanks.

Acronis makes a hardware-agnostic imaging software for that purpose. It is also included when buying the Kingston HyperX SDD drives. That might be a particular kit though also, so just make sure to read product details.

borntohunt wrote:Nice.
Just now stepped thru the process of selecting only the no-charge features to add to cart on the HP store website to find the $829.99 price has 3 lesser features which are:
- 300W power supply instead of Woot's better 460W PS.
- SuperMulti DVD Burner instead of Woot's better Blu-ray ROM with DVD Burner.
- 1GB DDR3 AMD Radeon HD 7570 instead of Woot's better 3GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 640.

The video card and DVD downgrade are fine if you don't need them but DO NOT use a 300W PSU. The processor alone can use over 300W at its peak and that can cause a lot of problems, including hardware failures. I'm surprised HP even offers it as on option!

Also even though the GT640 is nothing special, once you knock that off I can't think of any task/program the average consumer would need an i7 and 8GB of ram for. So at that point you might as well find a box with an i3 or i5 in it for ~$500-700.

(Built A LOT of PCs for many different uses.)

would buy it if it came with a free upgrade to Windows 8 when that comes out

peppersmagik wrote:The video card and DVD downgrade are fine if you don't need them but DO NOT use a 300W PSU. The processor alone can use over 300W at its peak and that can cause a lot of problems, including hardware failures. I'm surprised HP even offers it as on option!

Also even though the GT640 is nothing special, once you knock that off I can't think of any task/program the average consumer would need an i7 and 8GB of ram for. So at that point you might as well find a box with an i3 or i5 in it for ~$500-700.

(Built A LOT of PCs for many different uses.)

CPU pulling 300W all by it's lonesome? Do you have more information on that? Articles I read about the 3770K showed full load on system pulling just 115-120W. Some of the other Intel chips would get close, like the i7-920, but the 3570/3770 are a bit more efficient than other/previous chips.

(googled "i7 3770 Watt usage")

djkid1974 wrote:would buy it if it came with a free upgrade to Windows 8 when that comes out

Under features (not free, $15):
Go to this link https://windowsupgradeoffer.com/ to receive a special offer from Microsoft on Windows 8.

Max memory on the board is 16GB. Not that you really need more than that, right now, but surprised it doesn't max out at 32GB considering the other specs on the machine.

Just doing a quick glance-over here, this looks like a great deal to me and from my past experience with HP's similar computers I would highly recommend this and would buy it if I was looking to get a new computer at this time.

For comparison, I am using a HP Pavilion Elite HP#-270f which has very close specs to this with the most noticeable differences out-of-the-box being that it has a slightly slower quad-core i7 processor and older and weaker GPU as compared to this woot deal.

For those wondering about the GPU difference, my HP has a Radeon 5770. Here is a side-by-side on the two: http://www.hwcompare.com/12893/geforce-gt-640-ddr3-vs-radeon-hd-5770/

That said, I have had this computer for just under two years (and it has been on the market much longer that that) and it cost me a bit over a grand when I got it. I got this primarily for gaming but use it for everything I do.

As for gaming though, on this rig, stock out-of-the-box, I can run nearly anything I throw at it with the highest quality settings possible in 1920x1200 and get at least 60FPS (with vertical sync on, higher without v-sync).

If my older weaker PC can do that, then this one should have no problem in the gaming department!

The only two games I've thrown at my HPE-270f that couldn't be maxed out are LA Noir (which I have to severely lower the quality to get it playable, for that reason I haven't played it much) and, purely on a technicality, Arkham Asylum where I could max out ALL settings but ONE, that one being PhysX technology which is an Nvidia technology that doesn't play well with AMD cards.

I still advise researching thoroughly any computer purchase if you plan on keeping this your primary rig for years to come. I also selected mine for it's upgradability with it's compatibility with some intel 6-core CPUs (that I pray can still be found, but MUCH cheaper, 5 years or so down the road) and it's ability to have up to 24GBs of RAM (this woot deal I believe maxes at 16GBs, so there's one area that I can say my older HP is better).

sporadic wrote:Acronis makes a hardware-agnostic imaging software for that purpose. It is also included when buying the Kingston HyperX SDD drives. That might be a particular kit though also, so just make sure to read product details.

I'd stay away from Acronis True Image anymore. The latest version doesn't seem to even include drive cloning functionality by default (have to buy an add on) so I guess it has now become almost exclusively a "backup" program at this point.

Although, speaking of Acronis you could actually get away with just using the trial version of Acronis Migrate Easy if you only need to use it once. The trial lasts 15 days as I recall. It should have no trouble migrating a Windows install to another drive, including re-sizing partitions if necessary.

Edit:
Also, if looking for an SSD, $149 is a very good price for a 256GB M4. Looks like it's currently sold out at Amazon, but they're still taking orders as of now, just "ships in 2-5 weeks" if you click the smaller "Add to cart, Amazon.com $149.99" button under More Buying Choices on the right. Of course that might change to just plain "out of stock" at any time, or they could raise the price:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006MQQC0S
EDIT2: And there it went "no longer available," so I guess nevermind on that part.

You'd also want a 2.5" mounting bracket like:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008O510FW

From what I can tell you spec'd the same machine for the same price. I don't get how that's better and some (not much) of the free software is actually useful.

stinhoutx wrote:Sigh.

Priced today on the egg:
3770 - $309.99
W7HP - $99.99
Case - $54.99
RAM - $39.99
VidCard - $99.99
PSU(460W) - $39.99
BluRay - $59.99
Card reader - $9.99
Motherboard - $109.99
(nothing extravagant, many of those are discounted)

If I typed all that correctly, that's $824.91. My time's worth about $50/hr and I figure it takes about two hours to open all the boxes, assemble, install, load drivers and configure. Add another $15 for cheap keyboard and mouse.

But in the end, you win because I spent 20 minutes responding. Huzzah!

EDIT: Oops, forgot the HDD +~$80.

nniesen wrote:From what I can tell you spec'd the same machine for the same price. I don't get how that's better and some (not much) of the free software is actually useful.

The post you're replying to was a response to someone who was saying you could put together a much better system for the money. The point being that you'd actually end up with a pretty similar system for the money, but of course "better" is extremely subjective. You could certainly trade a higher end graphics card for a slower processor and end up with a more capable gaming system, but if you wanted a system for, say, video encoding then that might actually be worse rather than better.