So it's a pot with a basket inside? What does this 4th burner thing mean?

I was thinking it had a built-in hot plate or something...

Triosinal wrote:So it's a pot with a basket inside? What does this 4th burner thing mean?

I was thinking it had a built-in hot plate or something...

I believe "Fourth Burner" refers to the small size, meaning you can stick it on your fourth, likely smaller, burner.

Just a guess, though.

bittermang wrote:I believe "Fourth Burner" refers to the small size, meaning you can stick it on your fourth, likely smaller, burner.

Just a guess, though.

Yeah, the name and the description doesn't help much but I think that's what it is. Or if you have all 4 regular burners and need multiple pots going, but your large ones are pushing one another off center, you could use one of these instead.

Man, this thing takes a lot of words to describe. I understand why the Woot writer gave in early.

Triosinal wrote:So it's a pot with a basket inside? What does this 4th burner thing mean?

I was thinking it had a built-in hot plate or something...

It's normally pretty tough to use all four burners at once on a typical stove because the pans are just too big. The idea here is that the small diameter lets you use a fourth burner while the height makes up for what would otherwise be lost volume. (My stove has five burners, and I still can never use four of them.)

I've come very close to ordering this in the past. I've hit the buy button with full intent only to back out after logging in. The only thing keeping me from buying is that I already have to store some of my kitchen stuff in other rooms due to lack of space. No idea at all where I'd store this. (And I already store three skillets right on the stove, so that's not really an option.)

Well, I think this looks like the cheaper cousin of this pot: http://www.amazon.com/Kuhn-Rikon-4th-Burner-Multi/dp/B00381ANTG

It has rave reviews, but judging from the one negative review that seems describes this product, I think the major differences are that this:

1. is nonstick
2. is not dishwasher safe
3. is not induction suitable
4. does not have fill marks
5. uses bakelite instead of silicone

I'm having trouble finding more info about this though; it doesn't even appear on Kuhn Rikon's own website.

Bought this last time (about a month ago) it was offered at about $15. I love it. Use it mostly as a pot to boil water for my coffee press, but have used the basket for Noodles as well. Plan to use it for Veggie boiling too.

1 Con: Screw & Washer inside lid attaching handle to lid has RUSTED already! I'm not using the pot as long as there is rust, but I'm looking into replacing it with Stainless Steel. Seems like a silly, lazy thing to overlook....

I bought 3 of these as Festivus gifts before you lowered the price.
Thanks a lot, woot.

(I have the stainless steel version. i like it a lot.)

Well, bah! I finally broke down and ordered one. Where the samhill am I gonna put it? Prolly have to store it on the roof.

Is it stainless steel THIS TIME??

When I got mine, was advertised as stainless, and they were right. BECAUSE ALUMINUM is stainless. Steel, not so much!

I can scratch the bottom of my "stainless Steel" pot, with my fingernail.

Anyone from Amazon ()Woot!) want to comment, this time? Last time I was shunned!

No, I'm not what you'd call a "freshman" here. Been here since the beginning!

The silence has been DEAFENING!!

steve

Oh, just so you know, as a stainless ALUMINUM pot, and as a tiny canning pot, it works JUST FINE!

Stainless, YES! Steel, well, if you can scratch steel with your fingernail, it is. However, I can't!

steve

Triosinal wrote:So it's a pot with a basket inside? What does this 4th burner thing mean?

I was thinking it had a built-in hot plate or something...

Yes, it's a pot with a basket. 4th burner means that if it catches on fire with a very flammable liquid inside, i.e. turpentine, and the liquid gets all over your, you may also catch on fire with 4th degree burns. So please be careful using this.

"Fourth Degree Burns
Fourth degree burns damage not only all of the skin in the burned area but also the underlying muscle, tendon and ligament. Very often fourth degree burns are fatal. If a patient survives a fourth degree burn then skin grafting is essential."

Real quick: Last woot $3 more at $15.99:

http://home.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?postid=5111119

and my comment last time:

whatsamattaU wrote:Well, if everyone's going to refer to the previous woots, when this was $15.99 then, too, then here are the links with comments:
http://home.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?postid=5090403 wootoff with a few comments

and the woot
http://home.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?postid=5040259 with generally favorable comments.

I think this is the product page with a blander color:
http://www.kuhnrikon.com/products/duro/durotherm.php3?id=436

bye

Perfect for steaming ears of corn. Asparagus, too. Had to buy my mom one so she wouldn't steal mine!

It's great that this fits on a crowded stove and all (assuming you have no counterspace and always have more than three burners going for a while at once), but I'm not such a fan of the shape. Boiling liquids in a wider, shallower vessel is quicker because of the surface area (possibly reducing the need to be boiling so many things at once).

Also, you don't get to stir whatever it is you're cooking in this with something larger than chopsticks or an iced tea spoon without stuff spilling everywhere. In short, I'm not a fan of uni-task kitchen equipment.

Got one of these last time and tempted to get another - I really like mine! I use it for pasta and eggs. We do a lot of eggs around here since we raise chickens so it's perfect for that. I wish the basket had a smaller grate at the bottom so the pasta would not fall out occasionally, but other than that love it so far.

briannanoob wrote:Yes, it's a pot with a basket. 4th burner means that if it catches on fire with a very flammable liquid inside, i.e. turpentine, and the liquid gets all over your, you may also catch on fire with 4th degree burns. So please be careful using this.

"Fourth Degree Burns
Fourth degree burns damage not only all of the skin in the burned area but also the underlying muscle, tendon and ligament. Very often fourth degree burns are fatal. If a patient survives a fourth degree burn then skin grafting is essential."

Why exactly would anyone put flammable liquid inside?

Triosinal wrote:So it's a pot with a basket inside? What does this 4th burner thing mean?

I think it's what the last guy in the group brings to Burning Man.

"I'll bring the shrooms, she'll bring the body paint, and you bring the lube."

"What about that dude?"

"He's the 4th Burner. He brings the funny-looking pot."

Works great! I used it to keep canning lids warm when canning peaches - very helpful. If only there was a pot that peeled the fuzzy beasties!!!

I have a similar item from another manufacturer. Good for boiling eggs, etc.

Does the basket go all the way to the bottom? If so, how would you use it as a steamer since it is sitting in water at the bottom?

zvwang wrote:Well, I think this looks like the cheaper cousin of this pot: http://www.amazon.com/Kuhn-Rikon-4th-Burner-Multi/dp/B00381ANTG

It has rave reviews, but judging from the one negative review that seems describes this product, I think the major differences are that this:

1. is nonstick
2. is not dishwasher safe
3. is not induction suitable
4. does not have fill marks
5. uses bakelite instead of silicone

I'm having trouble finding more info about this though; it doesn't even appear on Kuhn Rikon's own website.

I think you're right. I don't even see this pot on the KR site. They only have the Stainless Steel one. I think this one also has a Teflon coating inside which I know lots of people try to avoid.

This is not the Stainless Steel model you are seeing on the Kuhn Rikon website or on Amazon. This is the cheaper, lower-quality version with the Teflon coating inside and is not dishwasher safe.

Here is someone on Amazon who ordered the full stainless steel but got the colored version instead: http://goo.gl/c22qG

This looks like it would be good as a small deep fryer. Does the basket reach all the way to the bottom?

Bought it last time it was up here, because another reviewer specifically said that it was good for canning (and in most ways, it is--wire basket to keep jars off the pot itself, which you need to prevent cracking; it's tall, so you don't need to boil as much water). However, the problem with that is that if you put a quart jar into it (the most common canning size), the lid is at the same level as the top of the pot, so water boils over and evaporates off, so the jar is no longer immersed. Wouldn't buy it for canning unless you have much shorter jars.

What is the bottom like? Painted bottoms do not work on glass top stoves. The paint melts and sticks to the surface, so bare metal only. I'm always amazed more attention is not paid to this little detail in cookware descriptions given the large number of glass tops out there...

I think 4th burner refers to the smaller burner on older stoves. Most stoves have 2 big 2 small. I think older had 2 big a medem and a small or 3 big and a small.

hopeC12 wrote:This looks like it would be good as a small deep fryer. Does the basket reach all the way to the bottom?

I would not suggest this for deep frying For 2 reasons.
#1 it is too small. It is only 7.5 inches tall and 5 inches across. You can't deep fry much in that maybe the amount of a small fry from McDonalds. If you put too much in you can cause an overflow at worst and at least you reduce the temp of the oil and ruin what you are deep frying.
#2 someone else said it is Teflon coated. If that it true you should not deep fry in Teflon.

zvwang wrote:Well, I think this looks like the cheaper cousin of this pot: http://www.amazon.com/Kuhn-Rikon-4th-Burner-Multi/dp/B00381ANTG

It has rave reviews, but judging from the one negative review that seems describes this product, I think the major differences are that this:

1. is nonstick
2. is not dishwasher safe
3. is not induction suitable
4. does not have fill marks
5. uses bakelite instead of silicone

I'm having trouble finding more info about this though; it doesn't even appear on Kuhn Rikon's own website.

I like the concept of this pot but don't care for the idea of sliding a metal basket in and out of a non-stick surface. Thanks for the Amazon link, will probably buy the stainless steel one instead.

DOCthomas wrote:I think 4th burner refers to the smaller burner on older stoves. Most stoves have 2 big 2 small. I think older had 2 big a medem and a small or 3 big and a small.

It's not a matter of old or new. I have a 2 year old range, 1 18,500 btu, 3 15,000 btu and one Simmer burner. The simmer burner is a bit smaller and I expect it is only 10,000 btu. It is not really designed for cooking or boiling but for simmering. Yes simmering is a slow boil but I think you get the point. They still make them in low and high end stoves.

I got this approx 3/4 a year ago -- was not sure if I'd use it much but was intrigued by some reviews I read over at Amazon - also have a few other Kuhn Rikon products so trust their quality. Since then, its my go to pot; easily the most used. A few uses
- Perfect for hard boiling eggs.
- Steaming vegetables
- Good for any grain product -- rice, oatmeal, etc...
- perfect for corn (cut in half)
- use it daily for hot water (french press coffee).

I really like its compact/vertical size - the smaller circumference makes it good for pouring from one item to another (like pouring soup into a bowl...).

No negatives -- we typically get comments from others regarding its unique look and versatility; highly recommend. At this price, you might consider getting 1-2 more for gifts.

I like this little pot. This is great for side dishes for a single person like me. It's not a particularly good cooking vessel. You can't make gourmet food out of it but it gets the job done. Someone said use it for deep frying, my reply is that you are only asking for trouble. The material is thin and not good at retaining heat. It's good for cooking small amounts of food.

I'd rather have a pot burner. :-)

mrgrogg wrote:Well, bah! I finally broke down and ordered one. Where the samhill am I gonna put it? Prolly have to store it on the roof.

No worries! You said you have three skillets on the stove right? The whole purpose of this is to fit on that 4th burner along side the three skillets. You're set!

TXedge wrote:I have a similar item from another manufacturer. Good for boiling eggs, etc.

Does the basket go all the way to the bottom? If so, how would you use it as a steamer since it is sitting in water at the bottom?

The basket has little feet that hold the food about 1/2 an inch or so off the bottom of the pot. When I steam foods in it, I usually just deal with the tiny bit of water that touches the food.

But now that I've been linked to the stainless steel version, I will be offering this to friends and buying that; I am getting rid of teflon. Thanks for that link!

zshornick wrote:... have used the basket for Noodles as well.

Are you sure? The only pasta that will stay in that basket are things like lasagna and large shells. Maybe that's what you meant.

I bought it because of a similar comment last go around, boy was I disappointed! It's not really good for pasta unless they're the large kind.

Gabri wrote:What is the bottom like? Painted bottoms do not work on glass top stoves. The paint melts and sticks to the surface, so bare metal only. I'm always amazed more attention is not paid to this little detail in cookware descriptions given the large number of glass tops out there...

No paint is on the bottom on mine. It's a stainless steel shiny looking thing.

I will agree with the others on that this is good for cooking vegetables, and pasta (without the basket) or rice. Works GREAT for corn on the cob, my primary use for it.

It's simply a tall pot that fits smaller burners.

If I were the designer, I would have made the basket better. Due to the width of the openings, it's not all that good at draining pasta or things like peas. On the other hand, the lid has a slot spout, and that works pretty good. Problem is that the food is still in there... way down there. It doesn't scoop out too easy.

I also wouldn't ever use it as a deep fryer. I wouldn't fry much of anything in that pot.

For anyone who doesn't like the idea of the teflon coating (I tend to avoid anything that can kill canaries), and if you don't mind different handles, look around for an asparagus steamer. I used to have one I gave away (grumble, grumble...) and it was great - stainless steel version of this w/two smaller handles on each side, better basket - got it marked down at a local home typed store.

If the stainless steel version was offered, I'd buy it. I don't like this version.

mrgrogg wrote:It's normally pretty tough to use all four burners at once on a typical stove because the pans are just too big. The idea here is that the small diameter lets you use a fourth burner while the height makes up for what would otherwise be lost volume. (My stove has five burners, and I still can never use four of them.)

I've come very close to ordering this in the past. I've hit the buy button with full intent only to back out after logging in. The only thing keeping me from buying is that I already have to store some of my kitchen stuff in other rooms due to lack of space. No idea at all where I'd store this. (And I already store three skillets right on the stove, so that's not really an option.)

I have purchased 3 of these previously as gifts and the folks that purchased are thrilled with them. You may use them for steaming, frying, boiling pasta, sauces ... etc. Fabulous pan ... ordering 3 more today!