Wasn't this just on woot yesterday?

tsfisch wrote:Wasn't this just on woot yesterday?

tsfisch wrote:Wasn't this just on woot yesterday?

http://www.woot.com/offers/jvc-1080p-hd-video-camera

I'm trying to figure out the difference between the two models other than price. I'm afraid I may have been suckered for $60 last night.

poslundc wrote:http://www.woot.com/offers/jvc-1080p-hd-video-camera

I'm trying to figure out the difference between the two models other than price. I'm afraid I may have been suckered for $60 last night.

Yesterday's woot camera is a superior camera. 1080p compared to the 720p of this one for starters.

Here it was in a previous woot

And since my dear friend WhatsamattaU is not here let me echo his comments from an even previouser time.

whatsamattaU wrote:Product page:

http://camcorder.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL028832&pathId=171&page=10

with your choice of manuals, the full one for example:

http://resources.jvc.com/Resources/00/01/49/LYT2257-001C-M.pdf

and 2 reviews:

http://camcorder.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL028850&pathId=171&page=10&review=read

NOTE: Those links from "WhatsamattaU" are not for this model. The proper JVC page is here: JVC GZ-HM30.

The link to prior Woot is correct.

One specific feature to be aware of is its use of AVCHD Lite format, which not all home video editing software supports (like Pinnacle Studio 14 that I have).

CowboyDann wrote: Here it was in a previous woot

And since my dear friend WhatsamattaU is not here let me echo his comments from an even previouser time.

Yesterday's Woot! was a superior camera. I'm not upset over the 60 bucks extra. It was worth it for the touch screen and the better zoom.

I noticed prior Woots are $20 to $30 more. Anyone know if there's actual difference between HM30AUS, HM30US or HM30?

Here is a very detailed comment from prior camcorder listing. Sale was for HM50, but this applies to HM30:
http://www.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?postid=5039600

I wooted this exact model a few months back. This was my first go at buying and utilizing digital camcorder. With that being said I am the lowest form of amateur you can get. My biggest complaint to this point is my recorded video quality (720p) is being altered when uploaded to YouTube. I am sure it’s user error, but I can’t seem to get it figured out for the life of me. After downloading the video from the camera into the JVC native Everio software and viewing the vids they look great. As soon as I go thru the process to upload to YouTube I lose my quality. Ugh….

Here is my YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCOiJCmEWVI there is no discernible difference between 360p, 480p, or 720p.

Suggestions are welcome!

Later

longballlumber wrote:I wooted this exact model a few months back. This was my first go at buying and utilizing digital camcorder. With that being said I am the lowest form of amateur you can get. My biggest complaint to this point is my recorded video quality (720p) is being altered when uploaded to YouTube. I am sure it’s user error, but I can’t seem to get it figured out for the life of me. After downloading the video from the camera into the JVC native Everio software and viewing the vids they look great. As soon as I go thru the process to upload to YouTube I lose my quality. Ugh….

Here is my YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCOiJCmEWVI there is no discernible difference between 360p, 480p, or 720p.

Suggestions are welcome!

Later

I suspect YouTube compresses files to save space and make for faster loading, but I'm sure there are some experts here who will know for sure.

longballlumber,

How much better is the video quality of the original video before uploading to Youtube? I've been looking at these JVC camcorders for a long time but am always hesitant to buy because the videos on Youtube don't even look as good as the ones from my $150 digital camera. I always suspected Youtube lowers the video quality, even its so-called HD1080p videos. But I cannot find any original sample videos anywhere on the internet to make a judgement.

longballlumber wrote:I wooted this exact model a few months back. This was my first go at buying and utilizing digital camcorder. With that being said I am the lowest form of amateur you can get. My biggest complaint to this point is my recorded video quality (720p) is being altered when uploaded to YouTube. I am sure it’s user error, but I can’t seem to get it figured out for the life of me. After downloading the video from the camera into the JVC native Everio software and viewing the vids they look great. As soon as I go thru the process to upload to YouTube I lose my quality. Ugh….

Here is my YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCOiJCmEWVI there is no discernible difference between 360p, 480p, or 720p.

Suggestions are welcome!

Later

poslundc wrote:http://www.woot.com/offers/jvc-1080p-hd-video-camera

I'm trying to figure out the difference between the two models other than price. I'm afraid I may have been suckered for $60 last night.

The "Picture here does Not speak for what’s inside"!

Today's and Yesterday's Woots,
may look the same but yesterday's is a Better HD Camcorder.
The Video Quality and Optical Zoom are better.
But Today’s Model is Still an OK Camcorder!
Forget about the Digital Zoom!!
Digital Zoom on Most consumer models is a Joke...Terrible!!
Batteries that come with Video cameras have a Basic of Time Recording at best..maybe 40 minutes of Use!!
GO TO BESTBATT.COM
Much Longer Use Batteries
Get the Combo 2-BN-VG121U Li-Ion Rechargeable Batteries and Charger Combo (FOR YOUR CAMCORDER MODELS:GZHM50 SERIES) ~~$50-60

When you're watching one of your videos go to the settings button (looks like a little gear) and change it to 720p HD it'll improve your quality a bit.

polymixa wrote:longballlumber,

How much better is the video quality of the original video before uploading to Youtube? I've been looking at these JVC camcorders for a long time but am always hesitant to buy because the videos on Youtube don't even look as good as the ones from my $150 digital camera. I always suspected Youtube lowers the video quality, even its so-called HD1080p videos. But I cannot find any original sample videos anywhere on the internet to make a judgement.

Yes, I always pick the highest video quality setting on youtube. However I assume all these youtube files (flv, mpg, etc) have been compressed by youtube and their quality is not as good as the one right out of camcorders. I really don't care so much about youtube quality. I will buy this HM30 if the original video quality is good, which I haven't been able to figure out.

alexmcgettrick wrote:When you're watching one of your videos go to the settings button (looks like a little gear) and change it to 720p HD it'll improve your quality a bit.

Also an amateur here. Please be kind.

To the amateur what is the BASIC difference between this camcorder and the one several days ago.

If there is a difference is it something I, a raw greenhorn, should be concerned with.

Thanks.

alexmcgettrick wrote:When you're watching one of your videos go to the settings button (looks like a little gear) and change it to 720p HD it'll improve your quality a bit.

That's exactly what I am doing... that was written in my original post...

longballlumber wrote:
Here is my YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCOiJCmEWVI there is no discernible difference between 360p, 480p, or 720p.

Suggestions are welcome!

Later

How do you get the SD cards to play after you record on them with these cameras.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks

polymixa wrote: I really don't care so much about youtube quality. I will buy this HM30 if the original video quality is good, which I haven't been able to figure out.

I bought this camera with alight difference in name as stated before from HSN at twice the price about one and half years back. I guess the three names used for 30 model is all the same depending on who has ordered the production.

As for quality, I am very happy with it and would surely suggest it to a friend. Camera is extremely easy to use, turns on when opening the LCD, goes off when you close it (A big deal for my wife that loves to empty the batteries of anything we have). I am not sure your expectations but I do take videos with Canon 5D II still DSLR at full 1080, still very happy with quality of what this little monster gives.

Few important things:

It is very small. Becareful of shake while filming even despite shake reduction mode.

Battery life is the main issue.
Replacement batteries from JVC (Similar to crappy one that comes with camera) are as expensive as camera itself ~75$. Still give you less than one hour of filming that for me, being a Sony camcorder user for all my life, this is a very very short time.
Batteries have internal chips and Cheap Asian manufacturer could not come with a cheap replacement as is customary with Canon or Sony, but there is a version that needs a separate cord from cheap battery to be connected to AC input of camera to overcome the chips data. So hassle to use.

If battery was not an issue, I would call this as the best deal out there.

Even with battery problem if you are looking for a good camera with slight limitations, you can't go wrong buying this one.

Price of current deal is among the cheapest I have seen for this model as long as refurb is not an issue.

mrict2002,
Thank you very much for providing some perspective on the video quality!

mrict2002 wrote:
I am not sure your expectations but I do take videos with Canon 5D II still DSLR at full 1080, still very happy with quality of what this little monster gives.

I got one of these in the last woot off. It has a weird video format, and the battery doesn't even last 40 minutes on a single charge. If you can spend more I say don't bother with this.

flareit wrote:The "Picture here does Not speak for what’s inside"!

Today's and Yesterday's Woots,
may look the same but yesterday's is a Better HD Camcorder.
The Video Quality and Optical Zoom are better.
But Today’s Model is Still an OK Camcorder!
Forget about the Digital Zoom!!
Digital Zoom on Most consumer models is a Joke...Terrible!!
Batteries that come with Video cameras have a Basic of Time Recording at best..maybe 40 minutes of Use!!
GO TO BESTBATT.COM
Much Longer Use Batteries
Get the Combo 2-BN-VG121U Li-Ion Rechargeable Batteries and Charger Combo (FOR YOUR CAMCORDER MODELS:GZHM50 SERIES) ~~$50-60

I got one of these in the last woot off. It has a weird video format, and the battery doesn't even last 40 minutes on a single charge. If you can spend more I say don't bother with this.

flareit wrote:The "Picture here does Not speak for what’s inside"!

Today's and Yesterday's Woots,
may look the same but yesterday's is a Better HD Camcorder.
The Video Quality and Optical Zoom are better.
But Today’s Model is Still an OK Camcorder!
Forget about the Digital Zoom!!
Digital Zoom on Most consumer models is a Joke...Terrible!!
Batteries that come with Video cameras have a Basic of Time Recording at best..maybe 40 minutes of Use!!
GO TO BESTBATT.COM
Much Longer Use Batteries
Get the Combo 2-BN-VG121U Li-Ion Rechargeable Batteries and Charger Combo (FOR YOUR CAMCORDER MODELS:GZHM50 SERIES) ~~$50-60

polymixa wrote:mrict2002,
Thank you very much for providing some perspective on the video quality!

Your are welcome.

And another point to mention is this JVC is somewhat picky about the SD card you use on it. Some of my higher grade cards won't work, some cheap cards gives error. Make sure to get card from a seller that accepts return, in case you see incompatibility with camera.

Also to mention a good feature of this camera that even yesterdays deal at higher end didn't have. There is a feature that you prefocus on a zone and when a subject enters that zone, camera starts to shoot and ends 5 second after there is no more action in the pre selected zone.
I love this feature for catching that little visitor to my bird feeder or humming bird feeder, also you can see the potentials here for what needed.
Here is the description from manufacturer in this regards:

"Auto REC
When a subject enters the detecting area, recording starts automatically. Recording continues as long as there is movement within the area and automatically stops after 5 seconds of no movement. You can use it like a surveillance camera or to observe something"

Another feature of camera that you will love to use is its ability to perform "Time Lapse" recording and that means afternoon becoming night in less than 1 minute on final film or those beautiful fast moving clouds over forest as you have seen on PBS or nature shootings.

In short for the price I doubt if you get disappointed on this deal, of course you can get much better items at much higher price.

You convinced me. Finally got one.

mrict2002 wrote:
In short for the price I doubt if you get disappointed on this deal, of course you can get much better items at much higher price.

Order of magnitude better. I have this unit and it looks very very good! The only issue is the files are AVHD-lite which seems to have some issues with some computers playback and youtube's compression. Best option is to compress your edited video to mp4 or H.264 (m4v) first check the quality then upload it. I don't know much more that I can be of assistance because I use Final Cut Pro X to edit and compress so I have had no issues with it so far. There are other programs that can do it both for PC and Mac that I haven't tried yet and have no need to. It is a very solid camera and with a tripod or pistol grip mount takes amazing footage. I am tempted by this after missing the newer model on woot yesterday for $150 (half off) . Good stuff here.

polymixa wrote:longballlumber,

How much better is the video quality of the original video before uploading to Youtube? I've been looking at these JVC camcorders for a long time but am always hesitant to buy because the videos on Youtube don't even look as good as the ones from my $150 digital camera. I always suspected Youtube lowers the video quality, even its so-called HD1080p videos. But I cannot find any original sample videos anywhere on the internet to make a judgement.

That's very good news for me as I had just made the purchase. Thank you for answering my questions!

DJNemisius wrote:Order of magnitude better. I have this unit and it looks very very good! The only issue is the files are AVHD-lite which seems to have some issues with some computers playback and youtube's compression. Best option is to compress your edited video to mp4 or H.264 (m4v) first check the quality then upload it. I don't know much more that I can be of assistance because I use Final Cut Pro X to edit and compress so I have had no issues with it so far. There are other programs that can do it both for PC and Mac that I haven't tried yet and have no need to. It is a very solid camera and with a tripod or pistol grip mount takes amazing footage. I am tempted by this after missing the newer model on woot yesterday for $150 (half off) . Good stuff here.

Just received my order. The first test video looked much better than most of the videos posted on Youtube. I am pretty happy about it. Just want to thank all guys who commented about the video quality.